[visionlist] [cvnet] Robert Musil and the Color Wheel

Wed Mar 27 09:15:32 -04 2019

Ah, great, thanks! I did not know it went so far back. I look forward to reading this.

> Am 27.03.2019 um 13:48 schrieb Manuel Spitschan <manuel.spitschan at psy.ox.ac.uk>:
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> Rob,
> 
> See Fig. 2 in Kuehni's article:
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> Kuehni, R. G. (2010). A brief history of disk color mixture. Color Research & Application, 35, 110–121. doi:10.1002/col.20566 
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> To see the original drawing, you'd have to consult his correspondence with Goethe.
> 
> Manuel
> 
> 
>> On 27 Mar 2019, at 11:41, Robert Ennis <rennis at gmx.com> wrote:
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>> This reminds me. Is it true that Runge was doing color mixture experiments with disks in 1808? Wikipedia and some other pages say so, but I can’t find any better sources:
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>> "In 1808 he intensified his work on color, including making disk color mixture experiments.“
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_Otto_Runge
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> Rob
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 27.03.2019 um 05:19 schrieb Christopher Tyler <cwtyler2020 at gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> However, in 1855 Maxwell invented the colour top for mixing colours (https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsta.2007.2178). What, then, did Musil invent in 1906?
>>> 
>>> Christopher Tyler
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:16 PM Macleod, Donald <dmacleod at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>> BTW the inventor of that interesting and useful contraption was the Austrian writer Robert Musil (who studied engineering first, then rejected academia to write important novels):
>>> 
>>> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musilscher_Farbkreisel
>>> 
>>> The inner workings of “Musil'scher Farbkreisel” are described in the catalog of Spindler &Hoyer, online at  
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>>> http://vlp.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/library/data/lit24062/index_html?pn=57&ws=1.5
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>>> 
>>> Don
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>>> 
>>> From: cvnet-bounces at lawton.ewind.com <cvnet-bounces at lawton.ewind.com> On Behalf Of Sandro Krasic
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 1:13 PM
>>> To: Alan Gilchrist <alan at psychology.rutgers.edu>
>>> Cc: serge NICOLAS <serge.nicolas77 at gmail.com>; cvnet at mail.ewind.com; visionlist at visionscience.com
>>> Subject: Re: [cvnet] Re: vieux instruments de psychologie
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>>> 
>>> Dear all,
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>>> 
>>> thank you very much! With your help we identified all apparatus. 
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>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Sandro
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> uto, 26. ožu 2019. u 20:33 Alan Gilchrist <alan at psychology.rutgers.edu> napisao je:
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>>> Sandro,
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Figures 7, 8, 12, and 13 show an episcotister, I believe.  It is a color wheel that allows you to change the proportion of 2 colors (say white and black) while the disk is spinning at high speed. Can’t touch German machines!
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Alan
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Alan L. Gilchrist
>>> Professor
>>> Psychology Dept
>>> Rutgers University
>>> Newark, NJ
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2019, at 7:13 PM, serge NICOLAS <serge.nicolas77 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here some indications:
>>> 
>>> Figures 12-13 : Farbenkreisel zur beliebigen Verstellun der Sektore, während der Rotation (Couloured disc on which the size of the sectors may be varied during rotation) may be E. Zimmermann, I do not see details on the photos but it is an handvariator.
>>> 
>>> Figure 6 : Graphische chronometer nach Jaquet (Jaquet's graphic chronometer)
>>> 
>>> Figure 7 : Einfacher Farbvariator (simple colour motor variator)
>>> 
>>> Figures 4 and 5 : Tourenzähler (Speed indicator)
>>> 
>>> Figure 9 : Deprez signal type (but I am not sure)
>>> 
>>> The other instruments are unknown to me. But photos do not indicate details.
>>> 
>>> I have not in my possesion the Heinrich Diel catalogue. I think you can find informations into this old catalogue.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Serge
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Le lun. 25 mars 2019 à 22:07, Mark Wexler <mark.wexler at gmail.com> a écrit :
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>>> Cher collègue,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chercheur en psychophysique à l'INCC (ex-LPP, ex-LPE) et visiteur à votre exposition de vieux instruments de psychologie au siège de l'Université (très intéressante, mais j'aurais apprécié plus d'explications), je viens de recevoir ce message d'un collègue slovaque sur CVNET, une liste de diffusion sur la vision :
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> From: Sandro Krasic <sandro.krasic.sk at gmail.com>
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>>> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 21:17:32 +0100
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>>> To: visionlist at visionscience.com, cvnet at mail.ewind.com
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At the faculty we are doing exhibition of old psychological apparatus for which we need to find out their names and functions. We found many of them, but some of them are still unknown to us. If someone has any information for any of them, I would be very grateful if you shared it with me.
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>>> link to images: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hAfd9usAknstFhiESKqbJhIogUEUmMwX
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>>> ------------------------------------  
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>>> 
>>> Je me suis dit que si quelqu'un pourrait l'aider, ce serait vous.
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>>> 
>>> Très cordialement,
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>>> Mark Wexler
>>> 
>>> 
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