<div dir="ltr">Thanks for sharing that, <span style="font-size:12.800000190734863px">PremNandhini! It is a great history of how we got to the troubled present in academic publishing. It's extremely informative.</span><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.800000190734863px">I think the author of the article, Stephen Buranyi, needs to write a follow-up article, though, that goes into all the various types of open access publishing, which he only minimally alludes to at the end.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.800000190734863px">Best,</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.800000190734863px">Les</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:18 AM, Premnandhini Satgunam <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:premnandhini@gmail.com" target="_blank">premnandhini@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Long read, but almost like watching "The GodFather"!!!</div><div><br></div><div>The legacy of scientific publishing!</div><div><br></div><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/27/profitable-business-scientific-publishing-bad-for-science?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other" target="_blank">https://www.theguardian.com/<wbr>science/2017/jun/27/<wbr>profitable-business-<wbr>scientific-publishing-bad-for-<wbr>science?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other</a><div><br></div><div>-PremNandhini<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Tom Wallis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tsawallis@gmail.com" target="_blank">tsawallis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">Thanks for your response Marc. I've added Multisensory Research to the list of journals that have provided a response to the community <a href="https://tomwallis.info/2016/11/08/vision-journal-community-responses/" target="_blank">here</a>.<div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div><div>Tom</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-391704149880404388m_8942433055423080891gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">--</font></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Thomas Wallis, PhD</font></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Project Leader, SFB 1233 Robust Vision</font></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">AG Bethge </font></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Center for Integrative Neuroscience</font></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Eberhard Karls Universität Tübingen</font></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Otfried-Müller-Str 25</font></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">72076 Tübingen</font></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Germany</font></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12px"><a href="http://www.tomwallis.info" target="_blank"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">www.tomwallis.info</font></a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 11:14 PM, Marc Ernst <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc.oliver.ernst@googlemail.com" target="_blank">marc.oliver.ernst@googlemail.<wbr>com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi Tom, <div><br></div><div>we have discussed this issue several times with Brill, the publisher of Multisensory Research. In response to our permanent queries they have updated their web-pages beginning of the year such that they now include more detailed descriptions on their open access policy. See e.g. </div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.brill.com/publications/journals/multisensory-research" target="_blank">http://www.brill.com/publicati<wbr>ons/journals/multisensory-rese<wbr>arch</a></div><div><br></div><div>As editors we constantly try to push the publisher to better justify their cost models and to make their policy transparent as we know this is important for the community. </div><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, I will not be at VSS this year to discuss this further. However, I hope to see you next year. </div><div><br></div><div>Enjoy & best, </div><div>Marc</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div class="m_-391704149880404388m_8942433055423080891h5"> <br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Am 15.05.2017 um 22:12 schrieb Tom Wallis <<a href="mailto:tsawallis@gmail.com" target="_blank">tsawallis@gmail.com</a>>:</div><br class="m_-391704149880404388m_8942433055423080891m_9221802830598357425Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks for pointing that out Andrew. I obviously missed it. I have also updated my website to reflect this response (<a href="https://tomwallis.info/2016/11/08/vision-journal-community-responses/" target="_blank">https://tomwallis.info/2016/1<wbr>1/08/vision-journal-community-<wbr>responses/</a>).<div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div><div>Tom</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-391704149880404388m_8942433055423080891m_9221802830598357425gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">--</font></div><div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Thomas Wallis, PhD</font></div><div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Project Leader, SFB 1233 Robust Vision</font></div><div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">AG Bethge </font></div><div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Center for Integrative Neuroscience</font></div><div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Eberhard Karls Universität Tübingen</font></div><div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Otfried-Müller-Str 25</font></div><div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">72076 Tübingen</font></div><div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Germany</font></div><div style="font-size:12px"><a href="http://www.tomwallis.info/" target="_blank"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">www.tomwallis.info</font></a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Andrew Parker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew.parker@dpag.ox.ac.uk" target="_blank">andrew.parker@dpag.ox.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Dear Tom<br>
<br>
It is my understanding that the following was sent to cvnet in
February this year. I am recirculating this.<br>
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Kind regards<br>
<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
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Dear all,<br>
<br>
I have been invited by Prof. Dr. Andrew Parker, the
Editor-in-Chief of our journal "Vision", <br>
to highlight MDPI’s APC policy in this discussion group.<br>
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MDPI seeks to maintain a fair and sustainable APC policy that
allows its staff to run journals <br>
to expected industry standards, to launch and develop new titles,
and to subsidize articles in <br>
many various cases. Articles may be discounted or waived for
fields where little or no funding is<br>
available for open access publication (such as humanities and
social sciences), for authors from <br>
low-income countries, or for few invited articles. Our new
journals, in the process of establishing their <br>
reputation and gaining visibility, do not charge an APC for at
least the first three to four years <br>
of operation.<br>
<br>
As indicated in our annual report 2015 (<a class="m_-391704149880404388m_8942433055423080891m_9221802830598357425m_-1342222868685310972moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mdpi.com/about" target="_blank">http://www.mdpi.com/about</a>),
the average APC for articles <br>
published in 2015 across all MDPI journals (including those with
no APC) is around 830CHF <br>
(770EUR/800USD). This is sufficient to cover our costs while
maintaining a rigorous editorial process.<br>
The OpenAPC project page currently reports €1,163 per article.
This discrepancy arises from the <br>
fact that the Open APC project list only 45 of our 160 journals.
This average APC per paper is <br>
clearly among the lowest APC in the field:<br>
<a class="m_-391704149880404388m_8942433055423080891m_9221802830598357425m_-1342222868685310972moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://treemaps.intact-project.org/apcdata/openapc/#publisher/" target="_blank">https://treemaps.intact-projec<wbr>t.org/apcdata/openapc/#publish<wbr>er/</a><br>
The full list of APC across our journals is available here: <a class="m_-391704149880404388m_8942433055423080891m_9221802830598357425m_-1342222868685310972moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mdpi.com/about/apc#amount-apc" target="_blank">http://www.mdpi.com/about/apc#<wbr>amount-apc</a><br>
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MDPI works closely with editorial boards consisting of scholars
with an international reputation. <br>
They work on a voluntary basis or receive a small honorarium, and
are responsible for the <br>
editorial decisions about which papers to publish. MDPI supports
them with all time-consuming <br>
administrative tasks. <br>
MDPI is also involved in a number of not-for-profit project to
help scholarly communities to interact<br>
and communicate, like the multidisciplinary preprint project
developed at "<a href="http://Preprints.org" target="_blank">Preprints.org</a>", the "<a href="http://sciforum.net/" target="_blank">sciforum.net</a>"<br>
platform where scholars can create, organize and run their
conference entirely for free, or "<a href="http://SciLit.net" target="_blank">SciLit.net</a>", <br>
our database of scholarly literature (currently 88.8 millions
articles) that allows scholar to stay up-to-date <br>
every day with the most recent articles published by any
publisher.<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
Franck<br>
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<pre class="m_-391704149880404388m_8942433055423080891m_9221802830598357425m_-1342222868685310972moz-signature" cols="72">Professor AJ Parker, MA, PhD, ScD, FRSB
Dept Physiology, Anatomy and Genetics,
University of Oxford
Sherrington Building, Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3PT
Phone <a href="tel:+44%201865%20272504" value="+441865272504" target="_blank">+44 1865 272504</a>
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<div class="m_-391704149880404388m_8942433055423080891m_9221802830598357425m_-1342222868685310972moz-cite-prefix">On 15/05/2017 16:05, Tom Wallis wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The VSS meeting (and the corresponding meeting of the
Vision Research board) is nearly upon us. I thought I'd send a
friendly reminder of the issue below: namely that to my
knowledge, <span style="font-size:12.800000190734863px">Vision
Research (Elsevier), the APA (JEP:HPP), Multisensory
Research and MDPI's Vision</span> have still not formally
responded to our community's questions about open access
costs.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Of course, if I've missed a response please let me know.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If you run into any board members of the journals listed
above at VSS next week, perhaps you can ask them about it?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best regards and see you in Florida,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Tom</div>
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<div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Thomas
Wallis, PhD</font></div>
<div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Project
Leader, SFB 1233 Robust Vision</font></div>
<div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">AG Bethge </font></div>
<div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Center for
Integrative Neuroscience</font></div>
<div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Eberhard
Karls Universität Tübingen</font></div>
<div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Otfried-Müller-Str
25</font></div>
<div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">72076
Tübingen</font></div>
<div style="font-size:12px"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Germany</font></div>
<div style="font-size:12px"><a href="http://www.tomwallis.info/" target="_blank"><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif">www.tomwallis.info</font></a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 1:21 PM,
Tom Wallis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tsawallis@gmail.com" target="_blank">tsawallis@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Over nine months ago, our journals were asked to
"...respond to the survey, particularly addressing
exactly why each journal is as expensive / cheap as
it is, particularly its open access option, and
whether each journal will provide transparent
accounting of costs."<br>
<br>
To my knowledge, four publishers (ARVO, Perception /
SAGE, Frontiers and Psychonomics) have provided at
least a cursory response, whereas Vision Research
(Elsevier), the APA (JEP:HPP), Multisensory Research
and MDPI's Vision journal have provided no response.
<br>
<br>
I recently decided to refuse a review request for
Vision Research, providing the editor with the
following letter:<br>
<br><p>Dear
Editor,</p><p>As
you’re aware, in January 2016 CVNet hosted a long
discussion about open-access charges and journal
costings more generally. This discussion resulted
in a survey of the community (results here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tfpSVeLflOG4moGvhHlT2SivnW5Rqw-upGrwLZkqEcA/edit#gid=1335831285" rel="nofollow" style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(187,0,0);text-decoration:none;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgba(0,0,0,0.0980392)" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>…/1tfpSVeLflOG4moGvhHlT2SivnW…<wbr>/edit…</a>).
All journals publishing vision-related content
were invited to respond to the survey,
particularly addressing “exactly why each journal
is as expensive/cheap as it is, particularly its
open access option, and whether each journal will
provide transparent accounting of costs. Given
that the data indicate that “Full academic or
professional society control” is a high priority,
editors should also comment on the ability of
themselves and the rest of us to affect their
journal’s policies, features and cost.”.</p><p>To
my knowledge, Vision Research has as yet failed to
respond to this survey, despite having agreed to
such a response at its editorial board meeting at
VSS in May. This is in contrast to some other
journals and publishers, such as Perception /
iPerception and ARVO. If this understanding is
mistaken, please let me know and I will correct my
stance.</p><p>Failing
that, I therefore choose to withhold my services
as a reviewer until such time as Vision Research /
Elsevier engage with the community they supposedly
serve.</p><p>Best
regards</p><p>Tom
Wallis</p>
<br>
Should you feel similarly to me, perhaps you will
also consider refusing review requests until those
journals engage with our community. I provide more
details, and will try to update a list of journals
who have / have not replied, at my blog here:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href="https://tomwallis.info/2016/11/08/vision-journal-community-responses/" target="_blank">https://tomwallis.info/2016/11<wbr>/08/vision-journal-community-r<wbr>esponses/</a><br>
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Best regards<span class="m_-391704149880404388m_8942433055423080891m_9221802830598357425m_-1342222868685310972gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Tom Wallis</font></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at
6:03 PM, Lester Loschky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:loschky@ksu.edu" target="_blank">loschky@ksu.edu</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks so much, Hans! That is
a very enlightening blog recapping the 2015
political action taken by the Dutch,
English, Germans, and other countries to end
the "serials crisis" caused by publishers
over-charging for open access publication.
Interestingly, it sounds like Elsevier
really IS the biggest obstacle among the
major publishers. It also sounds like
actions by libraries (e.g., the <a href="https://about.openlibhums.org/2014/04/07/library-partnership-subsidies-lps/" target="_blank">Library Partnership
Subsidies</a>) to get involved in open
access publishing is a fantastic way to get
prices down to the real costs.
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</div>
<div>Best wishes,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Les</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 6,
2016 at 4:52 AM, Hans Strasburger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:strasburger@uni-muenchen.de" target="_blank">strasburger@uni-muenchen.de</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear
all,<br>
<br>
while we are all brooding over what
to do next, you might enjoy this
blog on PLOS on open access
developments:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://blogs.plos.org/absolutely-maybe/2016/02/01/open-access-2015-a-year-access-negotiators-edged-closer-to-the-brink/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blogs.plos.org/absolute<wbr>ly-maybe/2016/02/01/open-acces<wbr>s-2015-a-year-access-negotiato<wbr>rs-edged-closer-to-the-brink/</a><br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Hans<br>
<br>
Hans Strasburger, apl. Prof.<br>
Ludwig Maximilian University München<br>
Inst. f. Med. Psychologie<br>
Georg August University Göttingen<br>
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Lester Loschky:<br>
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Simon,<br>
<br>
I fully share your reaction and
your interpretation of the
responses from our Vision
Science journals to the results
of Alex Holcombe's survey.
Clearly, there is a mismatch
between what folks in the Vision
Science community are wanting,
and what we are getting, and it
seems that the folks in charge
of our journals are, by and
large, not sure what to say
about it at the moment.<br>
<br>
I will say, however, that the
"holding" statements from JOV
and Psychonomics are entirely
reasonable. Any official
changes are going to have be the
product of discussion among the
appropriate governing bodies.
We cannot expect any official
changes to happen over night in
response to the Vision Science
community's stated wishes for
change.<br>
<br>
On the other hand, one might
also ask whether there is a
valid distinction between "them"
and "us" in this case, since the
people doing the reviewing and
editing are us (the Vision
Science community). So, any
changes that start at a "grass
roots" level will be by us.
That is, reviewers and editors
of our various Vision Science
journals who feel strongly about
these issues may want to discuss
among ourselves what we want,
whether that would involve
changes of the sort highlighted
by Alex Holcombe's
questionnaire, and, if so, what
those changes would concretely
involve. Such discussions are
surely the most direct way to
start moving towards the changes
that the questionnaire shows are
desired by us in the Vision
Science community.<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
<br>
Les<br>
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On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:30 PM,
Simon Rushton <<a href="mailto:RushtonSK@cardiff.ac.uk" target="_blank">RushtonSK@cardiff.ac.uk</a>
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I've been looking forward to
reading the responses from
journals. Now Hoover has
posted them (thank you Hoover)
I'm not sure how to<br>
interpret them.<br>
<br>
Just to recap, Alex
Holcombe's survey prompted
almost 400<br>
responses. 93% of people
indicated that they "want change
NOW"<br>
and he invited responses
from the journals that serve the
vision<br>
community.<br>
<br>
iPerception/Perception have
provided a comprehensive
response.<br>
<br>
JoV and Psychonomics have
issued what I guess we'd call
"holding"<br>
statements.<br>
<br>
JEP:HPP; Vision;
Multisensory Research; Vision
Research and<br>
Frontiers: Perception have
not responded. They must be
aware of<br>
the discussion and survey
responses.<br>
<br>
I can't be the only person
that is disappointed by such a
poor<br>
response from our journals
(except Perception/iPerception)
to an<br>
issue on which the community
has expressed such a strong
view.<br>
<br>
simon<br>
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