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<p class="MsoNormal">I thought that a a large p-value simply meant that my data were unlikely given the null-hypothesis, a statement which yields no evidence about either the null- or alternative hypotheses.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Pam Pallett [mailto:ppallett@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 16, 2017 10:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> visionlist@visionscience.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [visionlist] Statistical Criticism is Easy; I Need to Remember That Real People are Involved<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I came across a blog today by Frank Harrell, Professor of Biostatistics and Founding Chair at Vanderbilt.  His most recent post is the title of this email.  But as I'm reading through his blog, I'm hearing a lot that has been discussed
 and experienced by professors and postdocs subscribed to this list.  We are often very separated from our neighboring departments, and I actually found some comfort in the fact that these problems seem spread across the board (misery loves company). Even if
 we have been echoing these problems for over a decade with little effective change.  <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In his most recent post he says, "<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444">There are several ways to improve the system that I believe would foster clinical research and make peer review more objective
 and productive." I'm curious about what the people in the vision community think of these suggestions and whether they are realistic to implement in our field.  His list is at the bottom of the entry.  </span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444"><a href="http://www.fharrell.com/2017/11/">http://www.fharrell.com/2017/11/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444">For those experiencing TL;DR, here is the shortlist:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444">Have journals conduct reviews of background and methods without knowledge of results.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444">Abandon journals and use researcher-led online systems that invite open post-"publication" peer review and give researchers the opportunities to improve
 their "paper" in an ongoing fashion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444">If not publishing the entire paper online, deposit the background and methods sections for open pre-journal submission review.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444">Abandon null hypothesis testing and p-values. Before that, always keep in mind that a large p-value means nothing more than "we don't yet have evidence
 against the null hypothesis", and emphasize confidence limits.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444">Embrace Bayesian methods that provide safer and more actionable evidence, including measures that quantify clinical significance. And if one is trying
 to amass evidence that the effects of two treatments are similar, compute the direct probability of similarity using a Bayesian model.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444">Improve statistical education of researchers, referees, and journal editors, and strengthen statistical review for journals.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444">Until everyone understands the most important statistical concepts, better educate researchers and peer reviewers on <a href="http://biostat.mc.vanderbilt.edu/ManuscriptChecklist"><span style="color:#4D469C">statistical
 problems to avoid</span></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Pam Pallett<o:p></o:p></p>
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