<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">This reminds me. Is it true that Runge was doing color mixture experiments with disks in 1808? Wikipedia and some other pages say so, but I can’t find any better sources:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">"In 1808 he intensified his work on color, including making disk color mixture experiments.“</span></div><div class=""><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><font color="#222222" face="sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_Otto_Runge" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_Otto_Runge</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best wishes,</div><div class="">Rob</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 27.03.2019 um 05:19 schrieb Christopher Tyler <<a href="mailto:cwtyler2020@gmail.com" class="">cwtyler2020@gmail.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">However, in 1855 Maxwell invented the colour top for mixing colours (<a href="https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsta.2007.2178" class="">https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsta.2007.2178</a>). What, then, did Musil invent in 1906?</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Christopher Tyler</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:16 PM Macleod, Donald <<a href="mailto:dmacleod@ucsd.edu" class="">dmacleod@ucsd.edu</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail-m_-3479054146745950769WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">BTW the inventor of that interesting and useful contraption was the Austrian writer Robert Musil (who studied engineering first, then rejected academia to write important novels):
<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musilscher_Farbkreisel" target="_blank" class="">https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musilscher_Farbkreisel</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The inner workings of “Musil'scher Farbkreisel” are described in the catalog of Spindler &Hoyer, online at <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://vlp.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/library/data/lit24062/index_html?pn=57&ws=1.5" target="_blank" class="">http://vlp.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/library/data/lit24062/index_html?pn=57&ws=1.5</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Don<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class="">From:</b> <a href="mailto:cvnet-bounces@lawton.ewind.com" target="_blank" class="">cvnet-bounces@lawton.ewind.com</a> <<a href="mailto:cvnet-bounces@lawton.ewind.com" target="_blank" class="">cvnet-bounces@lawton.ewind.com</a>>
<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Sandro Krasic<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 26, 2019 1:13 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Alan Gilchrist <<a href="mailto:alan@psychology.rutgers.edu" target="_blank" class="">alan@psychology.rutgers.edu</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> serge NICOLAS <<a href="mailto:serge.nicolas77@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">serge.nicolas77@gmail.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:cvnet@mail.ewind.com" target="_blank" class="">cvnet@mail.ewind.com</a>; <a href="mailto:visionlist@visionscience.com" target="_blank" class="">visionlist@visionscience.com</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [cvnet] Re: vieux instruments de psychologie<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">thank you very much! With your help we identified all apparatus. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">uto, 26. ožu 2019. u 20:33 Alan Gilchrist <<a href="mailto:alan@psychology.rutgers.edu" target="_blank" class="">alan@psychology.rutgers.edu</a>> napisao je:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Figures 7, 8, 12, and 13 show an episcotister, I believe. It is a color wheel that allows you to change the proportion of 2 colors (say white and black) while the disk is spinning at high speed. Can’t touch German machines!<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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Alan L. Gilchrist<br class="">
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On Mar 25, 2019, at 7:13 PM, serge NICOLAS <<a href="mailto:serge.nicolas77@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">serge.nicolas77@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Hello, <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Here some indications:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Figures 12-13 : Farbenkreisel zur beliebigen Verstellun der Sektore, während der Rotation (Couloured disc on which the size of the sectors may be varied during rotation) may be E. Zimmermann, I do not see details on the photos but it is
an handvariator.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Figure 6 : Graphische chronometer nach Jaquet (Jaquet's graphic chronometer)<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Figure 7 : Einfacher Farbvariator (simple colour motor variator)<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Figures 4 and 5 : Tourenzähler (Speed indicator)<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Figure 9 : Deprez signal type (but I am not sure)<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">The other instruments are unknown to me. But photos do not indicate details.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">I have not in my possesion the Heinrich Diel catalogue. I think you can find informations into this old catalogue.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Le lun. 25 mars 2019 à 22:07, Mark Wexler <<a href="mailto:mark.wexler@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">mark.wexler@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Chercheur en psychophysique à l'INCC (ex-LPP, ex-LPE) et visiteur à votre exposition de vieux instruments de psychologie au siège de l'Université (très intéressante, mais j'aurais apprécié plus d'explications), je viens de recevoir ce message
d'un collègue slovaque sur CVNET, une liste de diffusion sur la vision :<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">From: Sandro Krasic <<a href="mailto:sandro.krasic.sk@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">sandro.krasic.sk@gmail.com</a>><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 21:17:32 +0100<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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visionlist@visionscience.com</a>, <a href="mailto:cvnet@mail.ewind.com" target="_blank" class="">
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Hello everyone!<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">At the faculty we are doing exhibition of old psychological apparatus for which we need to find out their names and functions. We found many of them, but some of them are still unknown to us. If someone has any information for any of them,
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