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Isn't that "spectral" in the sense of ghostly?<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Professor AJ Parker, MA, PhD, ScD, FRSB
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/03/2019 16:49, Tsao, Doris Y. wrote:<br>
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<div>"The fact is, living permanently in a well-ordered State has an out-and-out spectral aspect: one cannot step into the street or drink a glass of water or get into a tram without touching the perfectly balanced levers of a gigantic apparatus of laws and
relations, setting them in motion or letting them maintain one in the peace and quiet of one’s existence. One knows hardly any of these levers, which extend deep into the inner workings and on the other side are lost in a network the entire constitution of
which has never been disentangled by any living being. Hence one denies their existence, just as the common man denies the existence of the air, insisting that it is mere emptiness; but it seems that precisely this is what lends life a certain spectral quality—the
fact that everything that is denied reality, everything that is colourless, odourless, tasteless, imponderable and non-moral, like water, air, space, money and the passing of time, is in reality what is most important."</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 26, 2019 8:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Macleod, Donald<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [cvnet] Re: [visionlist] Robert Musil and the Color Wheel</font>
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<div dir="auto">Musil wrote his dissertation on color vision. When I was at Columbia I asked the library to get a microfilm of the dissertation from Berlin, and Sophie Wuerger and I tried to read it. It turned out to be almost entirely philosophical, not scientific.
The precision of Musil’s descriptions in The Man without Qualities is often attributed to his scientific training, but I suspect that this is not based on knowledge of his dissertation. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 18:58 Macleod, Donald <<a href="mailto:dmacleod@ucsd.edu" id="LPlnk222191" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true" moz-do-not-send="true">dmacleod@ucsd.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">BTW the inventor of that interesting and useful contraption was the Austrian writer Robert Musil (who studied engineering first, then rejected academia to write important novels):
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">The inner workings of “Musil'scher Farbkreisel” are described in the catalog of Spindler &Hoyer, online at </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Don</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:cvnet-bounces@lawton.ewind.com" target="_blank" id="LPlnk302490" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true" moz-do-not-send="true">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sandro Krasic<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 26, 2019 1:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alan Gilchrist <<a href="mailto:alan@psychology.rutgers.edu" target="_blank" id="LPlnk998853" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true" moz-do-not-send="true">alan@psychology.rutgers.edu</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cvnet] Re: vieux instruments de psychologie</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Dear all,</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">thank you very much! With your help we identified all apparatus. </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">uto, 26. ožu 2019. u 20:33 Alan Gilchrist <<a href="mailto:alan@psychology.rutgers.edu" target="_blank" id="LPlnk145348" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true" moz-do-not-send="true">alan@psychology.rutgers.edu</a>> napisao je:</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Figures 7, 8, 12, and 13 show an episcotister, I believe. It is a color wheel that allows you to change the proportion of 2 colors (say white and black) while the disk is spinning at high speed. Can’t touch German machines!</p>
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Alan L. Gilchrist<br>
Professor<br>
Psychology Dept<br>
Rutgers University<br>
Newark, NJ<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">On Mar 25, 2019, at 7:13 PM, serge NICOLAS <<a href="mailto:serge.nicolas77@gmail.com" target="_blank" id="LPlnk893530" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true" moz-do-not-send="true">serge.nicolas77@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Figures 12-13 : Farbenkreisel zur beliebigen Verstellun der Sektore, während der Rotation (Couloured disc on which the size of the sectors may be varied during rotation) may be E. Zimmermann, I do not see details on the photos but it
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Figure 6 : Graphische chronometer nach Jaquet (Jaquet's graphic chronometer)</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Figure 7 : Einfacher Farbvariator (simple colour motor variator)</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Figure 9 : Deprez signal type (but I am not sure)</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">The other instruments are unknown to me. But photos do not indicate details.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I have not in my possesion the Heinrich Diel catalogue. I think you can find informations into this old catalogue.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Le lun. 25 mars 2019 à 22:07, Mark Wexler <<a href="mailto:mark.wexler@gmail.com" target="_blank" id="LPlnk490706" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true" moz-do-not-send="true">mark.wexler@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Chercheur en psychophysique à l'INCC (ex-LPP, ex-LPE) et visiteur à votre exposition de vieux instruments de psychologie au siège de l'Université (très intéressante, mais j'aurais apprécié plus d'explications), je viens de recevoir ce
message d'un collègue slovaque sur CVNET, une liste de diffusion sur la vision :</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">From: Sandro Krasic <<a href="mailto:sandro.krasic.sk@gmail.com" target="_blank" id="LPlnk207195" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true" moz-do-not-send="true">sandro.krasic.sk@gmail.com</a>></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 21:17:32 +0100</p>
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visionlist@visionscience.com</a>, <a href="mailto:cvnet@mail.ewind.com" target="_blank" id="LPlnk861415" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true" moz-do-not-send="true">
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Hello everyone!</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">At the faculty we are doing exhibition of old psychological apparatus for which we need to find out their names and functions. We found many of them, but some of them are still unknown to us. If someone has any information for any of
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">link to images: <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrive.google.com%2Fopen%3Fid%3D1hAfd9usAknstFhiESKqbJhIogUEUmMwX&data=02%7C01%7Calan%40psychology.rutgers.edu%7C8c05cd06a0834a31edfb08d6b184b428%7Cb92d2b234d35447093ff69aca6632ffe%7C1%7C1%7C636891580878975760&sdata=FoRWSOVV%2F3%2BpMofj51lJvSB18uk7M0TzXsvHqUA7XAM%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" id="LPlnk332919" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true" moz-do-not-send="true">
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