<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear Gabrial,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">one of my favourites would be Karni & Sagi (1991) with 326 citations.<a class="labs-docsum-title" href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2052578/" ref="article_id=2052578" style="box-sizing: inherit; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; display: inline-block; outline-offset: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; width: 720px; margin: 0px; line-height: 2.4rem; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><font color="#000000" class="">Where practice makes perfect in texture discrimination: evidence for primary visual cortex plasticity.</font></a></div><div class=""><span style="orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Karni A, Sagi D.</span></div><div class=""><div class="labs-docsum-citation full-citation" style="box-sizing: inherit; line-height: 2.4rem; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span class="labs-docsum-journal-citation full-journal-citation" style="box-sizing: inherit; display: block;">Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 1991 Jun 1;88(11):4966-70. doi: 10.1073/pnas.88.11.4966.</span><span class="labs-docsum-journal-citation full-journal-citation" style="box-sizing: inherit; display: block;">Best regards,</span><span class="labs-docsum-journal-citation full-journal-citation" style="box-sizing: inherit; display: block;">Jochen</span></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">"Kremers, Jan" <<a href="mailto:Jan.Kremers@uk-erlangen.de" class="">Jan.Kremers@uk-erlangen.de</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [visionlist] Highly cited publications on vision in which authors were also subjects?</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">27. May 2020 at 18:12:42 CEST<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">"'<a href="mailto:gabrieljacobdiaz@gmail.com" class="">gabrieljacobdiaz@gmail.com</a>'" <<a href="mailto:gabrieljacobdiaz@gmail.com" class="">gabrieljacobdiaz@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:visionlist@visionscience.com" class="">visionlist@visionscience.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:visionlist@visionscience.com" class="">visionlist@visionscience.com</a>><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Hi Gabriel,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">maybe the following is also useful information for you: we often compare psychophysical data with results from electrophysiological recordings to infer the physiological basis of perceptual phenomena. These recordings may be ERG recordings on the same subjects. We are often our own subjects. I think this is very important because we are able to make links between ERG recordings and perception when we are also subject which would not be possible otherwise. I consider the time in which I am my own subject as scientifically very creative.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">We were criticized by the local ethics committee with the argument that we might force collaborators, who are in a dependent employment situation, to be subjects. I argued that we would curtail our scientific creative process if we would not be our own subject and they accepted that in the end.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">All the best,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Jan<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Jan Kremers<br class="">Prof. for Experimental Ophthalmology<br class="">Dept. of Ophthalmology<br class="">University Hospital Erlangen<br class="">Schwabachanlage 6<br class="">91054<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Erlangen<br class="">Tel.: +49 9131 8544595<br class="">Fax: +49 9131 8534415<br class="">Mobile:: +49 151 15244496<br class=""><a href="mailto:jan.kremers@uk-erlangen.de" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jan.kremers@uk-erlangen.de</a><br class=""><a href="http://www.tierphys.nat.uni-erlangen.de/research/kremers/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: blue;" class="">http://www.tierphys.nat.uni-erlangen.de/research/kremers//</span></a></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>visionlist [<a href="mailto:visionlist-bounces@visionscience.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:visionlist-bounces@visionscience.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Im Auftrag von<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Gabriel Diaz<br class=""><b class="">Gesendet:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2020 15:52<br class=""><b class="">An:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:visionlist@visionscience.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">visionlist@visionscience.com</a><br class=""><b class="">Betreff:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[visionlist] Highly cited publications on vision in which authors were also subjects?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Dear vision community,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">In response to a recent proposal to my IRB, I have received a request to provide examples of manuscripts in which the PI is also the subject in the manuscript. I am hoping that some of you may be able to help me track some down. The more impactful the better, whether that be indicated by citation count, recognition of the publication venue, or any other metric, as long as it will be evident to a non-expert.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Extra points if the study involves some element of motor behavior / perception & action.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks in advance,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">- gD<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">visionlist mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="mailto:visionlist@visionscience.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">visionlist@visionscience.com</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="http://visionscience.com/mailman/listinfo/visionlist_visionscience.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">http://visionscience.com/mailman/listinfo/visionlist_visionscience.com</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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