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<p class="MsoNormal">This is one disadvantage of studying inarticulate subjects (animals, babies): you can’t introspect on their experience, and they can’t tell you what they see.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">"visionlist-bounces@visionscience. com" <visionlist-bounces@visionscience.com> on behalf of "Robert Hess, Dr." <robert.hess@mcgill.ca><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 1:25 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"gabrieljacobdiaz@gmail.com" <gabrieljacobdiaz@gmail.com>, "visionlist@visionscience. com" <visionlist@visionscience.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [visionlist] Highly cited publications on vision in which authors were also subjects?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I concur with John. In my lab you can’t get away with <b>not</b> being a subject in your own psychophysical experiment, for the simple reason that you need to know what artefacts to control, naive subjects won’t tell you this interesting
information. I am a subject in almost all of my normal psychophysics and imaging.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On May 27, 2020, at 11:47 AM, John Robson <<a href="mailto:jgr11@cam.ac.uk">jgr11@cam.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gabriel,<br>
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I believe that both Fergus Campbell and I developed quite a reputation for asking authors of drafts of psychophysical papers about the subjective experience of being an experimental subject. We both always felt that the design of experiments should take into
account what it was like to be a subject and it was always desirable for authors to be among the subjects. You will find that all the most cited psychophysical papers of both Campbell and myself rely heavily (if not exclusively) on reports of observations
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John Robson<br>
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On May 27 2020, Gabriel Diaz wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear vision community,<br>
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In response to a recent proposal to my IRB, I have received a request to<br>
provide examples of manuscripts in which the PI is also the subject in the<br>
manuscript. I am hoping that some of you may be able to help me track some<br>
down. The more impactful the better, whether that be indicated by citation<br>
count, recognition of the publication venue, or any other metric, as long<br>
as it will be evident to a non-expert.<br>
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Extra points if the study involves some element of motor behavior /<br>
perception & action.<br>
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Thanks in advance,<br>
- gD<o:p></o:p></p>
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Professor John Robson ScD FRS<br>
Senior Research Professor in Vision Science<br>
University of Houston College of Optometry, Houston, TX 77204-2020<br>
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Fellow, Gonville & Caius College, Trinity St., Cambridge, CB2 1TA<br>
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