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<b>Sent:</b> April 28, 2022 2:31 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cvnet] Abbreviations</font>
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">I once had a journal edit out the word 'mayhap' after the article was accepted. I was annoyed. Mayhap is an awesome word and deserves to be printed.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">I also had a journal question my use of the word 'gift' as a verb. In my reply I cited both Elizabeth Barrett Browning and Blade Runner as precedents, so they let it in. At least
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">'et alia' is lovely. Maybe I'll try slipping that in next time.</div>
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<p class="x_ydpc178a2b3yiv3613463656MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I just had a paper published in JOV, and I have both e.g. and i.e. multiple times in my paper (final version, not edited out).</span></font></p>
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<p class="x_ydpc178a2b3yiv3613463656MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I would LOVE to change “et al.” to “et alia”. Students never know where the period goes. And “al.” is hardly any shorter than “alia”.</span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 28, 2022 1:14 PM<br clear="none">
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [cvnet] Abbreviations</p>
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<p class="x_ydpc178a2b3yiv3613463656MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Does anyone know why "e.g." and "i.e." are being edited out of journals, especially JOV? They're well understood concise short-hand for cumbersome
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