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<blockquote type="cite">On Apr 28, 2022, at 4:48 PM, Vincent Billock via cvnet <cvnet@lawton.ewind.com> wrote:<br>
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I once had a journal edit out the word 'mayhap' after the article was accepted. I was annoyed. Mayhap is an awesome word and deserves to be printed.</div>
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I also had a journal question my use of the word 'gift' as a verb. In my reply I cited both Elizabeth Barrett Browning and Blade Runner as precedents, so they let it in. At least they asked first.</div>
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'et alia' is lovely. Maybe I'll try slipping that in next time.</div>
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<div>On Thursday, April 28, 2022, 3:30:49 PM EDT, Karen Gunther <guntherk@wabash.edu> wrote:
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<p class="ydpc178a2b3yiv3613463656MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I just had a paper published in JOV, and I have both e.g. and i.e. multiple times in my paper (final version, not edited out).</span></font></p>
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<p class="ydpc178a2b3yiv3613463656MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I would LOVE to change “et al.” to “et alia”. Students never know where the period goes. And “al.” is hardly any shorter than “alia”.</span></font></p>
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<p class="ydpc178a2b3yiv3613463656MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold;">From:</span></font></b> cvnet <cvnet-bounces@lawton.ewind.com>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Qasim Zaidi via cvnet<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 28, 2022 1:14 PM<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> cvnet@mail.ewind.com; visionlist@visionscience.com<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [cvnet] Abbreviations</p>
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<p class="ydpc178a2b3yiv3613463656MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Does anyone know why "e.g." and "i.e." are being edited out of journals, especially JOV? They're well understood concise short-hand for cumbersome
longer phrases, so I would like to understand the objections to using them.</span></font></p>
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