<div dir="ltr"><div>It seems that language is not a purely logical process to consider, and there is not only one optimal solution (i.e., there is not only one optimal and proper way to communicate, as the grammar can change from one region to another). It has its own rules (which can also evolve over time). The good part: all of the discussed options can be understood. The editing problem of manuscripts (on the large scale) seems rather a personal choice of editors, reviewers etc.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Sedat Ozer</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 9:57 PM Gislin Dagnelie via cvnet <<a href="mailto:cvnet@lawton.ewind.com">cvnet@lawton.ewind.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">IMHO, and admittedly as a non-native speaker, "none" is the linguistic <br>
equivalent of an empty set, so one can assign either singular or plural to it. <br>
Neither is wrong, but plural is definitely the common choice. Anyone with more <br>
linguistic knowledge, please weigh in.<br>
<br>
Gislin<br>
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On 29 Apr 2022 at 17:56, Todd, James via cvnet <<a href="mailto:todd.44@osu.edu" target="_blank">todd.44@osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
I'm sure you are both correct in terms of formal grammar, but "none of them was<br>
removed" sounds weird to my ear, because "was" immediately follows "them". I'd<br>
be curious to know statistically what form of the verb the average speaker of<br>
English would use in that context. The verb change associated with the<br>
subjunctive is also grammatically correct, but most English speakers do not use<br>
it, at least in the US.<br>
<br>
Jim Todd<br>
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As much as I hate to point out your grammatical error, Todd, I shall. The<br>
sentence toward the end stating " none of them were" should be " none of<br>
them was" because the subject is singular. Sent from Terri´s iPhone <br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Sedat Ozer, Ph.D.,<br><a href="http://www.SedatOzer.com" target="_blank">www.SedatOzer.com</a></div></div></div>