<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi, I looked at the file you linked on the web and can make out all the rows starting right to left til the second last included for the top and middle stripes, and the complete row for the bottom one. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When I downloaded the file and opened it with photoshop, I get that the top row background measures 84 in RGB values, the second last dot measures 85 in RGB values, the last dot does not exist, as readings are 84 RGB</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This pattern repeats for the middle row: background=105, second last dot from the right=106; last dot does not exist.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">However, for the brightest row, the bottom one: background=131, the second last and the last dot both=132.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Maybe during the transformation subtle changes have gone lost, but it wouldn’t hurt to check the digital readings of your actual display to see if what you think you have put there actually exists. Just a thought.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><div class="">Il giorno 24 ago 2022, alle ore 18:58, SP Arun <<a href="mailto:sparun@iisc.ac.in" class="">sparun@iisc.ac.in</a>> ha scritto:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="elementToProof" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><span class="x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="margin: 0px;" class="">Dear visionlist, </span></span><div dir="ltr" class="x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)", "Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; margin: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div class="x_elementToProof x_x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="x_elementToProof x_x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;">We have a brightness perception puzzle in the image linked below. </div><div class="x_elementToProof x_x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;"><span class="x_x_elementToProof" style="margin: 0px;"><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QpWT48uA9R1ZG48ERy4F3osvxPgoy4qT/view?usp=sharing" data-auth="NotApplicable" style="margin: 0px;" class="">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QpWT48uA9R1ZG48ERy4F3osvxPgoy4qT/view?usp=sharing</a></span><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><span class="x_x_elementToProof" style="margin: 0px;"></span></div><br class=""></div><div class="x_elementToProof x_x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;">When we tried to find the smallest change in brightness detectable against a uniform background, we found something strange: for dark backgrounds, we found that only large brightness changes could be detected<span style="margin: 0px;" class="">, whereas for brighter backgrounds, we found that much smaller brightness changes could </span><span style="margin: 0px;" class="">be detected. </span></div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="x_elementToProof x_x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;">This was puzzling to us because this is the opposite of Weber's law -- by Weber's law we would expect that the threshold brightness change for brighter backgrounds should be larger than for darker backgrounds. But we observe the opposite. </div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;">All this must be because of contrast detection somehow. But we are unable to think of reasons why this is happening. Any ideas? </div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;">Regards, </div><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;">Arun</div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><div class="x_x_elementToProof" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><div style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;" class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin: 0px;" class=""><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""></p><div style="margin: 0px;" class="">---</div><div style="margin: 0px;" class="">SP Arun</div><div style="margin: 0px;" class="">Professor </div><div style="margin: 0px;" class="">Centre for Neuroscience<br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class="">Indian Institute of Science</div><div style="margin: 0px;" class="">Bangalore 560012</div><div style="margin: 0px;" class="">T: +91 80 22933436 </div><div style="margin: 0px;" class="">W:<span class=""> </span><a href="https://sites.google.com/site/visionlabiisc" data-auth="NotApplicable" title="https://sites.google.com/site/visionlabiisc" style="margin: 0px;" class="">https://sites.google.com/site/visionlabiisc</a></div><span style="margin: 0px;" class=""></span></div></div></div></div></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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