[visionlist] [cvnet] Trying to demonstrate stereoscopic vision remotely

Lester Loschky loschky at ksu.edu
Sat Mar 21 23:56:41 -04 2020


Thanks, Jeremy!  I'll use that!  We're already using your book!  Evidently
I need to read it more carefully!  ;)

Best wishes,

Les

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 5:43 PM Wolfe, Jeremy M.,Ph.D. <
jwolfe at bwh.harvard.edu> wrote:

> Hi Lester
>
> I think you are leaving out the most straight-forward approach of teaching
> students how to free fuse
>
> It works quite well with simple stimuli and a little practice.
>
> Here is the relevant figure from our S&P textbook.
>
> Good luck everyone!
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 20, 2020, at 10:45 PM, Lester Loschky <loschky at ksu.edu> wrote:
>
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> Hi Everybody,
>
> If you teach Sensation and Perception, and are currently preparing to
> teach it remotely, you may have the same question I have: how can you
> demonstrate stereovision remotely?
>
> As preface, the following are methods I have used in in-person classes to
> demonstrate stereo vision:
>
>    1. an actual stereoscope and example stereoimages to share with
>    students (including the classic Julesz square tile random-dot-stereogram
>    image)
>    2. example stereoscopic lenticular lens images to share with students
>    3. red/green anaglyph images with sets of cardboard & plastic
>    red/green anaglyph glasses
>    4. Google Cardboard plus cell phone to share with students
>    5. random dot autosterographic images
>    6. touching two pen tips together using two eyes versus one eye
>    7. learning about crossed vs. uncrossed disparity using two fingers at
>    different distances
>
> Unfortunately, my students don't uniformly have access to the apparatuses
> required for 1-4 above.
>
> Re. # 3 (red/green anaglyph images), I've thought of having students order
> a single pair of red/green anaglyph glasses online.  However, it appears
> that the cardboard and plastic ones can only be purchased in bulk. (I guess
> they're too cheap to sell individually.)  They also might not arrive in
> time, but students could still enjoy them once they get them.
>
> Re. #4 (Google Cardboard), I recall getting a free Google Cardboard from
> the NYTimes several years ago.  However, they are now no cheaper than $5
> (Irisu, of India), and likely wouldn't arrive in time.
>
> Regarding option #5 (random-dot autostereograms), I have found that since
> seeing random dot autostereographic images in depth requires perceptual
> learning, a large proportion of students don't manage to learn (within the
> short time period given in a single class period).  (Of course, many
> students may have a lot of time on their hands now, so they might keep at
> it long enough to learn to perceive them.  But there will definitely be a
> good proportion of students who don't try long enough to learn, and so
> don't get it.)
>
> #6 (touching two pen tips together) is definitely something that can be
> done remotely.  However, it doesn't have the "Wow!" factor of other
> demonstrations.  It is more of an "oh, really..." experience to realize how
> much worse you are with one eye than two.
>
> #7 (using two fingers at different distances to teach crossed vs.
> uncrossed disparity) can definitely be done remotely.  It is very
> educational, but again does not have the "Wow" factor.
>
> There is also the finger "hot dog" illusion, which can be done remotely.
> It is interesting, but quite different from all of the others in that
> stereoscopic depth perception is not involved.
>
> For the related phenomenon of motion parallax, "wiggle vision" is a very
> nice demonstration:
> http://www.well.com/user/jimg/stereo/stereo_gate.html
>
> https://www.3dwiggle.com/2016/06/28/5-wigglegrams-you-need-to-see-before-you-die/
>
> Of course, depth perception from motion parallax is importantly
> theoretically related to stereoscopic vision (both involve two different
> images from two different views, one seen over time (and only needing one
> eye)--motion parallax--and the other seen simultaneously (and requiring two
> eyes)--stereovision).  But it is not the same as stereoscopic vision, so is
> a separate but related issue.
>
> For the related phenomenon of binocular disparity, there is the famous
> "hole in your hand" illusion using a cardboard paper towel roll.  If
> students have a spare cardboard paper towel roll, they can do this
> remotely.  But, again, it is a theoretically related but separate issue.
>
> Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Les
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Lester Loschky
Professor
Associate Director, Cognitive and Neurobiological Approaches to Plasticity
Center
Department of Psychological Sciences
471 Bluemont Hall
1114 Mid-Campus Dr North
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