[visionlist] Highly cited publications on vision in which authors were also subjects?

David Grosof grosof at sloan.mit.edu
Thu May 28 18:02:37 -04 2020


Well, if we are going to start to put self-experimentation in context, we
can do worse than to mention a paper by a psychologist whose latter years,
before his passing in 2014, were marked by almost nothing but
self-experimentation: Seth Roberts. I won't comment here about his popular
works, which do not strive to meet rigorous scientific standards, but
rather note his quite interesting Behavioral Brain Sciences paper in 2004,
"Self-experimentation as a source of new ideas." The open peer commentary
in response to the article about, essentially, n=1 intra-subject design, is
quite engaging.
Seth Roberts (2004) "Self-experimentation as a source of new ideas: Ten
examples about sleep, mood, health and weight." Behav. Br. Scis. 27,
227-288.


On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 2:36 PM Woods, Russell <
Russell_Woods at meei.harvard.edu> wrote:

> Kohler I. (1962) Experiments with goggles. In: Held R, Richards W, ed.
> Perception: Mechanisms and Models. San Francisco: W H Freeman, 299-309.
>
> Kohler I. (1964) The formation and transformation of the perceptual world.
> Psychol Issues. 3(4): 14-173.
>
>
> My “favourite” study that involved the author as a subject is the original
> study in the demonstration that Helicobacter pylori was the cause of
> stomach ulcers by Barry Marshall (he and Robin Warren were awarded the
> Nobel Prize for their work).  The story is described in this review paper:
>
> Ahmed N (2005) 23 years of the discovery of Helicobacter pylori: Is the
> debate over?  Ann Clin Microbiol Antimicrob. 2005; 4: 17.  doi:
> 10.1186/1476-0711-4-17
>
> Barry Marshall drank a cocktail from a patient’s stomach and promptly got
> a stomach ulcer.  Ethically, they had determined that they could not ask
> anyone else to participate in that study.
>
> Marshall BJ, Armstrong JA, McGechie DB, Glancy RJ. Attempt to fulfill
> Koch's postulates for pyloric campylobacter. Medical J Australia.
> 1985;142:436–439.
>
> Not quite in our line of business, but a great story.
>
> best wishes, stay safe and healthy, and don’t try this at home,
>
> Russell
>
>
>
> > On 28 May, 2020, at 09:55, Mitch Brigell <mbrigell at aerpio.com> wrote:
> >
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> > In the sensory-motor literature, perhaps the most famous author subject
> studies were the Innsbruck Goggle Experiments performed by Theodor Erismann
> and his student Ivo Kohler. They adapted to wearing inverting prisms for
> weeks on end. Most frighteningly, after removing the goggles the normal
> world appeared inverted for a few days I believe. Most of the original
> publications are in German, but Kohler published a review in Scientific
> American in 1962.
> >
> > From: visionlist <visionlist-bounces at visionscience.com> On Behalf Of
> William K. Stell
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 2:14 PM
> > To: Robert Hess, Dr. <robert.hess at mcgill.ca>; gabrieljacobdiaz at gmail.com;
> visionlist at visionscience.com
> > Subject: Re: [visionlist] Highly cited publications on vision in which
> authors were also subjects?
> >
> > Yes - a HUGE YES - to John Robson, whose paper with Fergus Campbell on
> contrast sensitivity (1968 JPhysiol, 197:551-566) - "The authors acted as
> subjects" - is one of my all-time favourites.
> >
> > Many thanks, John.
> >
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> > From: visionlist <visionlist-bounces at visionscience.com> on behalf of
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> > To: gabrieljacobdiaz at gmail.com <gabrieljacobdiaz at gmail.com>;
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> > Subject: Re: [visionlist] Highly cited publications on vision in which
> authors were also subjects?
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> > Hi Gabriel,
> >
> > I concur with John. In my lab you can’t get away with not being a
> subject in your own psychophysical experiment, for the simple reason that
> you need to know what artefacts to control, naive subjects won’t tell you
> this interesting information. I am a subject in almost all of my normal
> psychophysics and imaging.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> > On May 27, 2020, at 11:47 AM, John Robson <jgr11 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Gabriel,
> >
> > I believe that both Fergus Campbell and I developed quite a reputation
> for asking authors of drafts of psychophysical papers about the subjective
> experience of being an experimental subject. We both always felt that the
> design of experiments should take into account what it was like to be a
> subject and it was always desirable for authors to be among the subjects.
> You will find that all the most cited psychophysical papers of both
> Campbell and myself rely heavily (if not exclusively) on reports of
> observations made by their authors.
> >
> > John Robson
> >
> > On May 27 2020, Gabriel Diaz wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear vision community,
> >
> > In response to a recent proposal to my IRB, I have received a request to
> > provide examples of manuscripts in which the PI is also the subject in
> the
> > manuscript.  I am hoping that some of you may be able to help me track
> some
> > down. The more impactful the better, whether that be indicated by
> citation
> > count, recognition of the publication venue, or any other metric, as long
> > as it will be evident to a non-expert.
> >
> > Extra points if the study involves some element of motor behavior /
> > perception & action.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > - gD
> >
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