[visionlist] LCD Monitors suitable with suitable temporal response

Vincent Bonin vincentbonin at gmail.com
Wed Mar 1 10:21:03 -05 2017


All LCD panels, particularly the fast panels used in gaming displays, in 
addition to uniformity problems, have serious temporal nonlinearities. 
Our pragmatic approach has been to pick one (Samsung R2233RZ, no longer 
available), thoroughly characterize it (all gray-to-gray transitions) 
and keep experiments within the narrow linear range.

We tested one OLED TV, LG 55EC930. Spatial and temporal response are 
stellar but could not drive it past 75 Hz and could not disable the 
automatic dimming features to prevent burn-ins. Dell has plans for an 4K 
OLED monitor, which they stopped because of burn-ins.

-Vincent Bonin

Jim Ferwerda wrote:
>
>
>> On Mar 1, 2017, at 1:21 AM, Martin Vinck <martinvinck at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:martinvinck at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> How about OLED screens?
>> I have been looking into these, and wonder about people's experience 
>> with these for vision research.
>> I am also curious about noise effects on electrophysiological recordings.
>
>> Best, Martin
>
> I was wondering when this would come up.
>
> These folks did a nice eval/review a few years back.
>
> Assessment of OLED displays for vision research
> Emily A. Cooper 
> <http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Emily+A.+Cooper>; 
> Haomiao Jiang 
> <http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Haomiao+Jiang>; 
> Vladimir Vildavski 
> <http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Vladimir+Vildavski>; 
> Joyce E. Farrell 
> <http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Joyce+E.+Farrell>; 
> Anthony M. Norcia 
> <http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Anthony+M.+Norcia> 
>
>
> http://jov.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2121369
>
> Also, see this paper on temporal/motion issues.
>
> Johnson, P., Kim, J., Hoffman, D. M., Vargas, A. and Banks, M. S. 
> (2014), 55.1: /Distinguished Paper/: Motion Artifacts on 240Hz OLED 
> Stereoscopic 3D Displays. SID Symposium Digest of Technical Papers, 
> 45: 797–800. doi:10.1002/j.2168-0159.2014.tb00209.x
>
> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/j.2168-0159.2014.tb00209.x/full
>
> Phillip, Since you’re at Berkeley I was going to suggest that you talk 
> with Marty Banks but I see that you already work together. Are there 
> specific issues re: time/motion that you’re concerned about that 
> aren’t addressed in these papers or are you just polling the community 
> for broader info?
>
> -Jim Ferwerda
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 Feb 2017, at 23:55, Phillip Guan <philguan at berkeley.edu 
>> <mailto:philguan at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if there are alternatives to CRTs and the ViewPixx3D 
>>> ($12,000 each) displays that can be used when fast response times 
>>> are required for temporally varying stimuli. From this paper 
>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4369646/ it seems that 
>>> certain gaming monitors may be approaching the required quality 
>>> level, are there any specific high framerate gaming panels that have 
>>> come out in the last two years that approach parity with CRTs?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Phillip Guan
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