[visionlist] LCD Monitors suitable with suitable temporal response

Fri Mar 3 04:14:03 -05 2017

Dear all,

Detailed reviews of displays and display technology for use in vision and cognition research can also be found on http://display-corner.epfl.ch/

All the best,

Marc

Marc M. Lauffs
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From: visionlist [mailto:visionlist-bounces at visionscience.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Peirce
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 22:15
To: visionlist at visionscience.com
Subject: Re: [visionlist] LCD Monitors suitable with suitable temporal response

Since a number of people have mentioned monitors that they have tested and found to be good/bad, could remind people of the i-Reviews section of i-Perception.

i-Reviews was originally created solely for reviews of web resources (and can still be used for that) but we decided that it should also be a useful place to send brief reviews of kit.

If you've collected data on a monitor, button box, or similar device that you think would benefit others then please think about sending a brief report on it as an i-Review. They are free to publish, with peer-review but lighter touch than traditional papers. There isn't a formal limit on length but we are talking brief. They are still indexed in the usual ways (pubmed etc) and can be cited too.

It seems a shame that people are collecting all this useful data but it isn't being seen by others. And that people aren't taking advantage of this easy way to get a citable, peer-reviewed manuscript for free!

So if you bought a piece of kit, or saw a web resource (youtube video?) that you think could use a review then get in touch. You can email me directly to discuss an idea if you aren't sure.

best wishes,
Jon

On 01/03/2017 15:21, Vincent Bonin wrote:
All LCD panels, particularly the fast panels used in gaming displays, in addition to uniformity problems, have serious temporal nonlinearities. Our pragmatic approach has been to pick one (Samsung R2233RZ, no longer available), thoroughly characterize it (all gray-to-gray transitions) and keep experiments within the narrow linear range.

We tested one OLED TV, LG 55EC930. Spatial and temporal response are stellar but could not drive it past 75 Hz and could not disable the automatic dimming features to prevent burn-ins. Dell has plans for an 4K OLED monitor, which they stopped because of burn-ins.

-Vincent Bonin

Jim Ferwerda wrote:

On Mar 1, 2017, at 1:21 AM, Martin Vinck <martinvinck at gmail.com<mailto:martinvinck at gmail.com>> wrote:

How about OLED screens?
I have been looking into these, and wonder about people's experience with these for vision research.
I am also curious about noise effects on electrophysiological recordings.

Best, Martin

I was wondering when this would come up.

These folks did a nice eval/review a few years back.

Assessment of OLED displays for vision research
Emily A. Cooper<http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Emily+A.+Cooper>; Haomiao Jiang<http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Haomiao+Jiang>; Vladimir Vildavski<http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Vladimir+Vildavski>; Joyce E. Farrell<http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Joyce+E.+Farrell>; Anthony M. Norcia<http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Anthony+M.+Norcia>

http://jov.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2121369

Also, see this paper on temporal/motion issues.

Johnson, P., Kim, J., Hoffman, D. M., Vargas, A. and Banks, M. S. (2014), 55.1: Distinguished Paper: Motion Artifacts on 240Hz OLED Stereoscopic 3D Displays. SID Symposium Digest of Technical Papers, 45: 797–800. doi:10.1002/j.2168-0159.2014.tb00209.x

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/j.2168-0159.2014.tb00209.x/full

Phillip, Since you’re at Berkeley I was going to suggest that you talk with Marty Banks but I see that you already work together. Are there specific issues re: time/motion that you’re concerned about that aren’t addressed in these papers or are you just polling the community for broader info?

-Jim Ferwerda

On 28 Feb 2017, at 23:55, Phillip Guan <philguan at berkeley.edu<mailto:philguan at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
Hello,

I'm wondering if there are alternatives to CRTs and the ViewPixx3D ($12,000 each) displays that can be used when fast response times are required for temporally varying stimuli. From this paper https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4369646/ it seems that certain gaming monitors may be approaching the required quality level, are there any specific high framerate gaming panels that have come out in the last two years that approach parity with CRTs?

Thanks,

Phillip Guan
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