[visionlist] LCD Monitors suitable with suitable temporal response

Jonathan Peirce jon.peirce at gmail.com
Wed Mar 1 16:15:03 EST 2017


Since a number of people have mentioned monitors that they have tested 
and found to be good/bad, could remind people of the i-Reviews section 
of i-Perception.

i-Reviews was originally created solely for reviews of web resources 
(and can still be used for that) but we decided that it should also be a 
useful place to send brief reviews of kit.

If you've collected data on a monitor, button box, or similar device 
that you think would benefit others then please think about sending a 
brief report on it as an i-Review. They are free to publish, with 
peer-review but lighter touch than traditional papers. There isn't a 
formal limit on length but we are talking brief. They are still indexed 
in the usual ways (pubmed etc) and can be cited too.

It seems a shame that people are collecting all this useful data but it 
isn't being seen by others. And that people aren't taking advantage of 
this easy way to get a citable, peer-reviewed manuscript for free!

So if you bought a piece of kit, or saw a web resource (youtube video?) 
that you think could use a review then get in touch. You can email me 
directly to discuss an idea if you aren't sure.

best wishes,
Jon


On 01/03/2017 15:21, Vincent Bonin wrote:
> All LCD panels, particularly the fast panels used in gaming displays, 
> in addition to uniformity problems, have serious temporal 
> nonlinearities. Our pragmatic approach has been to pick one (Samsung 
> R2233RZ, no longer available), thoroughly characterize it (all 
> gray-to-gray transitions) and keep experiments within the narrow 
> linear range.
>
> We tested one OLED TV, LG 55EC930. Spatial and temporal response are 
> stellar but could not drive it past 75 Hz and could not disable the 
> automatic dimming features to prevent burn-ins. Dell has plans for an 
> 4K OLED monitor, which they stopped because of burn-ins.
>
> -Vincent Bonin
>
> Jim Ferwerda wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 1, 2017, at 1:21 AM, Martin Vinck <martinvinck at gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:martinvinck at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> How about OLED screens?
>>> I have been looking into these, and wonder about people's experience 
>>> with these for vision research.
>>> I am also curious about noise effects on electrophysiological 
>>> recordings.
>>
>>> Best, Martin
>>
>> I was wondering when this would come up.
>>
>> These folks did a nice eval/review a few years back.
>>
>> Assessment of OLED displays for vision research
>> Emily A. Cooper 
>> <http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Emily+A.+Cooper>; 
>> Haomiao Jiang 
>> <http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Haomiao+Jiang>; 
>> Vladimir Vildavski 
>> <http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Vladimir+Vildavski>; 
>> Joyce E. Farrell 
>> <http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Joyce+E.+Farrell>; 
>> Anthony M. Norcia 
>> <http://jov.arvojournals.org/solr/searchresults.aspx?author=Anthony+M.+Norcia> 
>>
>>
>> http://jov.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2121369
>>
>> Also, see this paper on temporal/motion issues.
>>
>> Johnson, P., Kim, J., Hoffman, D. M., Vargas, A. and Banks, M. S. 
>> (2014), 55.1: /Distinguished Paper/: Motion Artifacts on 240Hz OLED 
>> Stereoscopic 3D Displays. SID Symposium Digest of Technical Papers, 
>> 45: 797–800. doi:10.1002/j.2168-0159.2014.tb00209.x
>>
>> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/j.2168-0159.2014.tb00209.x/full
>>
>> Phillip, Since you’re at Berkeley I was going to suggest that you 
>> talk with Marty Banks but I see that you already work together. Are 
>> there specific issues re: time/motion that you’re concerned about 
>> that aren’t addressed in these papers or are you just polling the 
>> community for broader info?
>>
>> -Jim Ferwerda
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 Feb 2017, at 23:55, Phillip Guan <philguan at berkeley.edu 
>>> <mailto:philguan at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if there are alternatives to CRTs and the ViewPixx3D 
>>>> ($12,000 each) displays that can be used when fast response times 
>>>> are required for temporally varying stimuli. From this paper 
>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4369646/ it seems that 
>>>> certain gaming monitors may be approaching the required quality 
>>>> level, are there any specific high framerate gaming panels that 
>>>> have come out in the last two years that approach parity with CRTs?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Phillip Guan
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