[visionlist] LCD Monitors suitable with suitable temporal response
jon.peirce at gmail.com
Wed Mar 1 16:15:03 -05 2017
Since a number of people have mentioned monitors that they have tested
and found to be good/bad, could remind people of the i-Reviews section
i-Reviews was originally created solely for reviews of web resources
(and can still be used for that) but we decided that it should also be a
useful place to send brief reviews of kit.
If you've collected data on a monitor, button box, or similar device
that you think would benefit others then please think about sending a
brief report on it as an i-Review. They are free to publish, with
peer-review but lighter touch than traditional papers. There isn't a
formal limit on length but we are talking brief. They are still indexed
in the usual ways (pubmed etc) and can be cited too.
It seems a shame that people are collecting all this useful data but it
isn't being seen by others. And that people aren't taking advantage of
this easy way to get a citable, peer-reviewed manuscript for free!
So if you bought a piece of kit, or saw a web resource (youtube video?)
that you think could use a review then get in touch. You can email me
directly to discuss an idea if you aren't sure.
On 01/03/2017 15:21, Vincent Bonin wrote:
> All LCD panels, particularly the fast panels used in gaming displays,
> in addition to uniformity problems, have serious temporal
> nonlinearities. Our pragmatic approach has been to pick one (Samsung
> R2233RZ, no longer available), thoroughly characterize it (all
> gray-to-gray transitions) and keep experiments within the narrow
> linear range.
> We tested one OLED TV, LG 55EC930. Spatial and temporal response are
> stellar but could not drive it past 75 Hz and could not disable the
> automatic dimming features to prevent burn-ins. Dell has plans for an
> 4K OLED monitor, which they stopped because of burn-ins.
> -Vincent Bonin
> Jim Ferwerda wrote:
>>> On Mar 1, 2017, at 1:21 AM, Martin Vinck <martinvinck at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:martinvinck at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> How about OLED screens?
>>> I have been looking into these, and wonder about people's experience
>>> with these for vision research.
>>> I am also curious about noise effects on electrophysiological
>>> Best, Martin
>> I was wondering when this would come up.
>> These folks did a nice eval/review a few years back.
>> Assessment of OLED displays for vision research
>> Emily A. Cooper
>> Haomiao Jiang
>> Vladimir Vildavski
>> Joyce E. Farrell
>> Anthony M. Norcia
>> Also, see this paper on temporal/motion issues.
>> Johnson, P., Kim, J., Hoffman, D. M., Vargas, A. and Banks, M. S.
>> (2014), 55.1: /Distinguished Paper/: Motion Artifacts on 240Hz OLED
>> Stereoscopic 3D Displays. SID Symposium Digest of Technical Papers,
>> 45: 797–800. doi:10.1002/j.2168-0159.2014.tb00209.x
>> Phillip, Since you’re at Berkeley I was going to suggest that you
>> talk with Marty Banks but I see that you already work together. Are
>> there specific issues re: time/motion that you’re concerned about
>> that aren’t addressed in these papers or are you just polling the
>> community for broader info?
>> -Jim Ferwerda
>>> On 28 Feb 2017, at 23:55, Phillip Guan <philguan at berkeley.edu
>>> <mailto:philguan at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>>>> I'm wondering if there are alternatives to CRTs and the ViewPixx3D
>>>> ($12,000 each) displays that can be used when fast response times
>>>> are required for temporally varying stimuli. From this paper
>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4369646/ it seems that
>>>> certain gaming monitors may be approaching the required quality
>>>> level, are there any specific high framerate gaming panels that
>>>> have come out in the last two years that approach parity with CRTs?
>>>> Phillip Guan
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