[visionlist] [cvnet] Abbreviations

William K. Stell wstell at ucalgary.ca
Thu Apr 28 16:53:28 -04 2022

Slipping in "et alia", ad hoc?
I like that. 😉


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Subject: Re: [cvnet] Abbreviations


I once had a journal edit out the word 'mayhap' after the article was accepted.  I was annoyed.  Mayhap is an awesome word and deserves to be printed.

I also had a journal question my use of the word 'gift' as a verb.  In my reply I cited both Elizabeth Barrett Browning and Blade Runner as  precedents, so they let it in.  At least they asked first.

In general I dislike the high-handed behavior of copy editors.

'et alia' is lovely.  Maybe I'll try slipping that in next time.

Vince Billock

On Thursday, April 28, 2022, 3:30:49 PM EDT, Karen Gunther <guntherk at wabash.edu> wrote:

I just had a paper published in JOV, and I have both e.g. and i.e. multiple times in my paper (final version, not edited out).

I would LOVE to change “et al.” to “et alia”.  Students never know where the period goes.  And “al.” is hardly any shorter than “alia”.

  *   Karen


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Subject: [cvnet] Abbreviations

Does anyone know why "e.g."  and  "i.e." are being edited out of journals, especially JOV?  They're well understood concise short-hand for cumbersome longer phrases, so I would like to understand the objections to using them.



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