[visionlist] [External] Re: [cvnet] Abbreviations

Johnson, Chris A chris-a-johnson at uiowa.edu
Thu Apr 28 18:08:31 -04 2022

Many years ago the editor for the American Journal of Ophthalmology changed every which to that, made the presentation be in first person (even with multiple authors), and made many other changes without permission.

Chris Johnson
Emeritus Professor, Univ. of Iowa Dept. of Ophthalmology

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On Apr 28, 2022, at 4:48 PM, Vincent Billock via cvnet <cvnet at lawton.ewind.com> wrote:

I once had a journal edit out the word 'mayhap' after the article was accepted.  I was annoyed.  Mayhap is an awesome word and deserves to be printed.

I also had a journal question my use of the word 'gift' as a verb.  In my reply I cited both Elizabeth Barrett Browning and Blade Runner as  precedents, so they let it in.  At least they asked first.

In general I dislike the high-handed behavior of copy editors.

'et alia' is lovely.  Maybe I'll try slipping that in next time.

Vince Billock

On Thursday, April 28, 2022, 3:30:49 PM EDT, Karen Gunther <guntherk at wabash.edu> wrote:

I just had a paper published in JOV, and I have both e.g. and i.e. multiple times in my paper (final version, not edited out).

I would LOVE to change “et al.” to “et alia”.  Students never know where the period goes.  And “al.” is hardly any shorter than “alia”.

  *   Karen


Dr. Karen L. Gunther, PhD

Professor of Psychology

Chair, Institutional Review Board

Chair, Psychology Division, Council on Undergraduate Research

Baxter 322

Psychology Department

Wabash College

301 W. Wabash Ave.

Crawfordsville, IN  47933


Preferred pronouns:  she, her

From: cvnet <cvnet-bounces at lawton.ewind.com> On Behalf Of Qasim Zaidi via cvnet
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2022 1:14 PM
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Subject: [cvnet] Abbreviations

Does anyone know why "e.g."  and  "i.e." are being edited out of journals, especially JOV?  They're well understood concise short-hand for cumbersome longer phrases, so I would like to understand the objections to using them.



Qasim Zaidi PhD
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